PRE-64 MONTE CARLO
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- Action Compatibility
- Colors & Finishes
Build your own
The Pre-64 Monte Carlo is a factory duplicate stock. It has a raised comb suitable for use with a scope. This stock can be used for any Pre-64 or late Model 70 barreled action and will accept up to a #4 barrel contour.
|FLAT TOP (No Inlet)||$306|
|BASIC INLET (INCLUDES: Action Outline & Barrel Channel)||$354|
|FULL INLET (INCLUDES: Inlet for Action, Floorplate & Barrel Channel||$448|
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Identifying Your Winchester Rifle
This model differs from the newer models in that the very rear of the receiver is shaped like a clover-leaf and is often referred to as a Model 70 with a clover-leaf tang. As the name indicates, it was produced prior to World War II.
This Model 70 was produced prior to 1964 and is identified by the circular tool marks on the front bridge (where scope mounts attach). Although these rifles look very much like the modern Model 70, the stocks and the inletting are not interchangeable. Putting a Pre-64 rifle into a late model stock will require a bit of minor modification of the trigger bow.
Late Model 70:
Whether or not Winchester called them “the New Pre-64,” all Model 70’s produced after 1964 are late Model 70’s.
The “New Pre-64”:
This name refers to the fact that the receiver is a “controlled round feed” but everything else about the rifle makes it a “Late Model.” Prior to the mid-eighties all Model 70’s were “long actions.” Since then there are “short” for calibers up to .308 and “long” for the larger calibers. It is important that you indicate which length action you have.
McMillan Stocks for Montana Rifleman:
Most Winchester stock designs can also be inletted for the Montana Rifleman series of actions.
COLORS AND FINISHES
For the finest presentation-grade surface, we suggest a painted finish. Six solid paint colors are available.
A new speckletone granite finish is also available. Choose any solid base coat color and specify either one or two speckletone paint highlights to create an attractive custom finish.
When you order any paint finish, the underlying stock is hand-sanded, primed, and painted to eliminate all surface imperfections. This is the finish most manufacturers specify for the McMillan stocks that are sold with their custom shop rifles.
The paint we use is an industrial grade, non-slip pebble finish similar to that found on power tools, office machines and industrial equipment. This polyurethane paint is the most durable we can find and is suitable for conditions found from the Arctic to the tropics. However, any painted finish will scratch when dragged over rocks, limbs and other hard surfaces. It is impervious to most gun cleaning solvents, but harsh solvents should be wiped off immediately.
Repainting an existing McMillan Stock
We can repaint any McMillan stock for our customers at a nominal charge.
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2 COLOR SPECKLETONE GRANITE FINISH
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3 COLOR SPECKLETONE GRANITE FINISH
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The Spectre Series is McMillan’s new molded-in finish that mimics aspects of digital camouflage. It is currently available in four different color schemes.
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Desert Ambush is the first offering of the Ambush series. The color pattern was developed for the desert terrain and foliage of the Southwestern United States.
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Molded-In Colors to Create a Unique Marble Pattern.
Molded in colors are the most durable finish we offer. With a molded finish, the color is impregnated into the gelcoat, or exterior surface layer of the stock. All of the molded-in finishes below should be considered utility-grade. Mold lines, sanding marks, fiberglass cloth and small imperfections may be visible.
Molded-in stocks are provided with a matte finish to minimize light reflection. After receiving your stock, some customers take it upon themselves to further wetblock sand and buff the surface to achieve a polished, warm luster finish. This is particularly attractive with marble patterns.
A molded-in stock will weigh several ounces more than a painted stock due to the additional resin material that is used.
We do our best to make your particular finish as attractive as possible. However, we are limited in what can be accomplished with molded-in colors. Solid colors, especially darker ones, produce the greatest challenge, whereas the camouflage patterns tend to look better because the various colors and shapes hide imperfections. Marbled colors offer the best choice for creating a finished look with a molded-in color.
A marble finish is created by swirling two or three different colors into the surface of the stock. The result is a beautiful effect that is unique to your stock. McMillan pioneered this finish, which has become a familiar hallmark of our brand.
Choose any 2 or 3 of the molded in colors to create a unique swirled marble pattern finish for your custom stock. Literally thousands of different patterns can be created, including any you see on our website.
No two stocks are ever made alike as the marbling action is totally random in occurence.
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The most popular marble finishes are shown here. Virtually any color combination is possible and some color combinations are inherently more pleasing than others.
Note that a marble finish can be used as an effective camouflage pattern when using olive green, black, gray and other common camo colors.
Each finish is done by hand and it is impossible to duplicate any particular marble pattern. Because marbling is created in the mold under pressure, patterns are random and not controllable. Specific vertical or horizontal patterns are not possible. Also, colors will change shades somewhat due to the mixing of colors while the swirling is done. Marble stocks may not be returned because of dissatisfaction with the color. However, you may opt to have us paint the stock at our regular price.
The colors on the right are used to create molded-in swirled marble and camo finishes. Solid molded in colored stocks are not available from McMillan.
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McMillan Uses Molded-In Colors to create a Unique Camouflage Finish
Standard Camouflage Patterns
Eleven basic camouflage patterns are standard order items. The colors are not painted on the surface, but are molded into the stock for durability when used in extreme environments. Many military units specify this finish for their tactical stocks, with the choice of colors dependent on the part of the world where the rifle will be deployed. Custom camo patterns of any three or four colors are optional at no extra charge.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
[st_panel title=” 1. What materials is a stock made of?” state=”closed”]Each fiberglass stock is made of multi-layers of eight-ounce woven fiberglass cloth, laminated under pressure with epoxy resin. The stock is filled with solid fiberglass in the receiver area and epoxy and glass beads in the forend. Our EDGE ultralight stocks are made with 100% graphite cloth in the shell instead of fiberglass, for less weight and greater strength. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”1a. What are your ‘fills’?” state=”closed”]Edge Tech – is our ultra light stock. It is made out of graphite cloth, not fiberglass. Edge Tech is the lightest we can make a stock pattern. The hunters edge stock pattern can get down to as little as 23 ounces. Because of its lightweight, it cannot have any adjustable hardware installed and must be painted. It is not recommended for magnum calibers and this fill cannot be used for any caliber above a .300 win mag.
Standard – The majority of our stocks are filled with standard fill, also called sporter fill. It is composed of fiberglass cloth and solid fiberglass throughout the forearm and action area. A dense 2 piece foam is used in the butt stock. This fill is used for all calibers up to and including .300 win mag.
Magnum – This fill is used for heaving recoiling and magnum caliber rifles, mainly on hunting stocks. It constructed the same as a standard fill except heavier, thicker and more dense fiberglass is used in the recoil lug and action area to withstand heavy recoil and be easier on the shooter. It will add about 6 ounces of weight to the stock. It will be used for anything above a .300 win mag caliber.
Sniper – This fill is mainly used on magnum calibers on our tactical stocks. It is the same as magnum fill except there is lightweight fiberglass in the butt stock, not foam. This is so hardware for adjustability can be installed onto the butt stock if so desired. With the fiberglass being in the butt, it also helps to balance out rifles with large barrel contours. It will add about 8-10 ounces to the stock. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”2. Are your stocks hollow?” state=”closed”]The only hollow part of the stock is the buttstock from the rear of the pistol grip to two inches from the end. This area is filled with urethane foam to deaden the sound and absorb vibration.[/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”3. Do your stocks have a foam core?” state=”closed”]No, ours are completely solid and then machine inletted rather than having the receiver area molded.[/st_panel]
[st_panel title=” 4. What colors are available? ” state=”closed”]We offer 6 painted solid colors, 11 molded-in camo finishes and a wide variety of marble finishes. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”5. Will the paint chip off?” state=”closed”]Though we use the most durable, catalyzed urethane enamel paint on the market, it is still a paint. As such, it is subject to dings and scratches due to rough conditions and handling. We do guarantee our finishes against adhesion problems but not against normal wear and tear. We will, however, repaint stocks at a reduced price for our customers. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”6. Do you make Kevlar Stocks?” state=”closed”]From the testing we have done and the results of some independent testing, we have determined that Kevlar does not improve the quality or strength of our stocks. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”7. Do you use graphite?” state=”closed”] Yes, where added stiffness is desired we do use graphite upon request at an added expense. Our EDGE ultralight stocks are made with 100% graphite cloth in the outer shell as standard.[/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”8. Why are your stocks more expensive than some?” state=”closed”]We are dedicated to making the best stocks money can buy. The material, time, labor, and quality control required to do so is reflected in the price of the stock.[/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”8a. Are your stocks made in the U.S.A.?” state=”closed”]Yes, from start to finish our stocks are made here entirely in Phoenix, Arizona. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”9. What method do you use to make your stocks?” state=”closed”]We use the method commonly referred to as hand-laminating. Layers of glass cloth are laid in a mold by hand, then cured under heat and pressure. This adds strength, reduces weight, and eliminates voids compared to other methods of sprayed or molding methods. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”10. What colors are available in the marble finish?” state=”closed”]A marble finish is a combination of two or three colors swirled together to form a marble type pattern in the surface of the stock. It is possible to use any combination of colors that we stock. We do suggest you look through the catalog or web site to choose a combination that appeals to you.
You can also check out this blog that shows hundreds of different marble configurations: McMillan marble pictures.[/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”11. What is a molded-in finish?” state=”closed”]McMillan produces some stock finishes such as our camouflages and marbles that are actually molded right into the exterior of the stock. These finishes tend to be more durable and wear resistant but are not as high quality as our painted finishes. We call them “utility grade” finishes since the mold lines, small imperfections, cloth especially on light colors and some sanding marks may be visible. We WILL NOT offer solid molded colors because it is so hard to make them look acceptable. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”12. Can I get a stock molded in the color I want it painted in so scratches won’t show?” state=”closed”]No. Due to the process used to paint the stock and the nature of the materials used in making them, molding the stock in the color you wanted it painted in offers no advantage, costs more to manufacture, and adds weight to the stock. If you ding or scratch the surface deep enough to penetrate the gelcoat surface, it will appear as a light gray scratch regardless of the color of the stock. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”13. Do you recommend barrel bedding or pressure points?” state=”closed”]No, after installing thousands of stocks we have observed that 98% of the rifles are most accurate when free floated. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”13a. What is your recommended torque screw setting for my action screws? ” state=”closed”]We recommend 40-45 inch lbs. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”14. Do I need to bed the receiver?” state=”closed”]We have found that in most cases our drop-in and custom fitted stocks provide better than adequate accuracy unbedded. However, the final determination is left up to the individual shooter. Bedding services are available from your local gunsmith. We no longer offer bedding services. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”15. Can I order from McMillan directly? ” state=”closed”]We encourage you to use your local dealer but you can order direct. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”16. What stocks will my action fit into?” state=”closed”]Because we fill each stock solid and then inlet them with CNC milling machine, we have some flexibility. If two actions are similar dimensionally (i.e. Remington and Savage) the same stock can be used for either make. Usually, though, each of our stocks is designed and made for specific actions and is available for those actions only. The only way to know for sure is to ask one of our customer service reps or read the specifications list below each stock. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”17. What does a stock cost? ” state=”closed”]Our price list sometimes gets complicated because we offer so many options with each individual stock, there is no one price. For hunting and sporting stocks there is a standard price for a completely finished “Drop-in Stock” which includes a Pachmayr Decelerator Recoil pad, Uncle Mikes sling swivel studs, and the finish of your choice. For competition and tactical stocks we start with a base price which is a basic stock inletted for your barreled action including the finish of your choice. To that you add all of the different accessories you would like to complete your stock. Each accessory is priced separately. Add all the prices together to get your total price. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”18. How do I use your price list?” state=”closed”]There is no set “fixed” price on any of our stocks. Our pricing is designed to let all of our customers get just what they want (within limits) and not have to pay for anything they do not want or need. So you can be a gunsmith or rifle builder who just wants a basic inlet or fully inletted stock blank to finish and accessorize yourself or you can be a customer who wants a full finished, fully adjustable competition stock ready to bolt his rifle into.
On our website just click on “stock pricing” to see the current price list. Our price list is broken down into two basic sections where most stocks in that group are all priced the same. For the “Hunting and Sporting” type stocks look in the “hunting” section for the current price for a fully inletted blank. This price includes the color and finish of your choice. Now click or look in the “stock options or accessories list”. You will see many optional items here and the price each option will add to the base price. For a hunting stock you can choose from two different recoil pads and specify the length of pull. Just add the price of the pad you choose to the base price. Now for sling or bipod attachment points you can choose standard sling studs or flush cups for flush applications. Just choose what you want and how many and add those prices to the base price and pad price to get a total price for the stock.
In the Tactical and Competition stock section, look again to see the starting base price. These stocks typically have a more solid fiberglass filler material which requires slower inletting speeds and more inletting for stock options and accessories and are priced higher than the hunting stocks because of the increased CNC machine time. Again the base price includes the color and finish of your choice. Go to the stock options and accessories list. Not all stocks have all the options available for them so check with us if you have questions. If you want an adjustable cheekpiece, pick one of the three types available and add that price to the base price. Choose what you want on the butt – just a recoil pad or one of the adjustable butt assemblies and add that price. For sling or bipod attachments choose standard sling studs or flush cups and how many and add those prices. Decide if you want optional accessory rails and bipod studs and add the price. If you want pre-installed machined-in metal pillars around the guard screw holes just specify that and add the price. Now add everything up to get a total price of a stock equipped just the way you want it. In the accessories list you can order different sling loops, or a hand stop, or any of the other accessories that we carry. See, it’s really not that complicated once you work through it the first time. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”19. How long will it take to get my stock?” state=”closed”]Updated 11/6/13 – Current average delivery time is around 6 months.
For custom made to order stocks, delivery time varies depending on the number of orders we are working on at the time. To check the status of your current order please email email@example.com . Please allow 5-7 days for us to get back to you with the status of your order as we are extremely busy and must locate your stock among the thousands on the shop floor. We have stocks ready to ship located on the individual stock pages under the “In Inventory” tab. These stocks are updated weekly and there are some good deals on some custom stocks inlets. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”20. Why does it take so long to get a stock?” state=”closed”]We offer each customer the ability to custom order your stock, including choice of finishes, recoil pads, adjustable cheekpieces, adjustable butt plates, and custom barrel channels. Each stock is ordered, produced, inletted, finished and delivered according to a specific order from an individual customer. It takes time to produce a custom product to the standards our customers and we have established. [/st_panel]
[st_panel title=”21. Can I change my order once I have placed it? ” state=”closed”]As a general rule we will allow you to change your order if the stock has not yet passed that part of the production process. Changing a molded in color is the first step and your stock will be made within 2 weeks of placing your order. No later than 4 weeks, your stock will be inlet for your specific barreled action. If a change must absolutely be made, we will start the production process over from the date the change was made. [/st_panel]
McMillan offers our customers two ways to purchase a McMillan stock. Buy our most popular stocks in inventory in our Retail Store or select a McMillan special, one-of-a-kind stock offered on the individual stock pages.
For custom order stocks, please see the Buy Now Build Your Own tab for detailed information.
McMillan Fiberglass Stocks Order Form
Our price list is broken down into two basic sections where most stocks in that group are all priced the same. For the “Hunting and Sporting” type stocks look in the “hunting” section for the current price for a fully inletted blank.
In the Tactical and Competition stock section, look again to see the starting base price. These stocks typically have a more solid fiberglass filler material which requires slower inletting speeds and more inletting for stock options and accessories and are priced higher than the hunting stocks because of the increased CNC machine time.